We don’t use any pre-made curriculum for the kid’s ministry. I prefer to instead keep a finger on the pulse of the kids and see what they need spiritually. The last two weeks we’ve been talking about how God changes hearts. Last week we got into how having more of God changes us even more.

I posed the question, “do you honestly want more of God?” After a lot of work I’ve finally brought these kids to the point where they can be honest with me and not give the “church” answer. After a few confused looks they more or less agreed they didn’t want more of God because they didn’t really know what that meant.

So that’s what we’re diving into next. What does it mean to have “more of God?” What can you do to have more? How does that change lives and hearts? How do you get the desire for more of God and keep it going?

Ironically these are things I struggle with all the time and I think I’m not alone. I look at teenagers and see kids that need more of God but just don’t understand how it can alter their lives. I look at adults who need more of God but make no room for him in their life.

I was going to kick this off next week, but I think I’ll put if off for a couple of weeks to really dive into this question. There are so many angles to take I really want to get to the meat of it and teach what will help these kids the most.

So help me. What does it mean to have more of God? What do you do to have more of God? How does that effect your life? When I ask that question, what parts of the Bible does it bring to mind?

I’ve got a few ideas on where I ‘m going with it, but I’d like this to be a group experiment.



  1. says

    I think of Jacob wrestling with the Angel of the Lord. He wanted a blessing, and he wasn’t about to leave without it.

    And I think of David returning the Ark to the City of David. He wanted the presence of God, but when it killed a man on the way he got freaked out and left it with someone else. When he saw how that family was blessed because of God’s presence, he got jealous and went to get it.

    And I think of Daniel (I think it was Daniel) who continued to pray, “as was his custom,” even when it became illegal to pray.

    It’s a tricky question because we know we should want more of God, but the world and our flesh is constantly fighting that inclination. We don’t always have the emotional fervency that we get when we “want” other things (iPods, food, etc.), and I think it’s because we don’t really know God. If we knew what it was that God offered us through Christ’s sacrifice, we’d never leave our prayer closets.

    And so far as I can figure, that knowledge comes three ways: through study (reading the word, going to church, listening to good podcasts, etc.), through others’ examples (deliberately hanging out with people whose relationship with God makes you jealous), and through revelation. It takes God to love God, and I think the prayer I most often pray is “God, I want to want You more. Help me.”

  2. says

    more of God….
    to me it means really understanding his character and nature, and coming to grasp what he has done for me in a way that i just respond in unsuppressed worship.
    what do i do? well, I’m a bit of an achiever. I like to do and accomplish stuff. So when you say “do” i literally think of doing–things like feeding the hungry, helping the widow, mowing the lawn of the elderly, helping someone carry groceries to the 4th floor)–a life of service.
    this effects my life in that it keeps me close to the need of people, not only for physical help but for spiritual salvation.
    God already gave everything for me so I have everything of him I can have. The only way I know of to have “more of God” than that, is to in turn “give all of me.” The less of me there is living for myself, the more God is.

    Strangely, the very first verse that came to my mind was, “Be still and know that I am God.” Psalm 46:10
    Be still? you mean, don’t do anything? i think stillness and quietness is where we can hear God best and we come to know him by talking to him and then actually listening for his response.

    I also think of Romans 12:1 “Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God.”
    well,”therefore” what? this is what it says right before in chapter 11.

    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!
    34″Who has known the mind of the Lord?
    Or who has been his counselor?”
    35″Who has ever given to God,
    that God should repay him?”
    36For from him and through him and to him are all things.
    To him be the glory forever! Amen.

    that just blew my mind. God is so huge. to want “more of God” is an incredible request.

    so, my conclusion is-to get more of God, we need to GIVE more (all) of ourselves. Getting more of God is giving up ourselves and living completely for His glory.

    p.s. Get well soon. (praying for you)

  3. says

    Having more of God pulls you into being more and more uncomfortable with yourself and your old self, because you find yourself (mind, will, emotions) being transformed while you were not even paying attention! But don’t ask for more if you don’t want to be uncomfortable.

    Sometimes we won’t even “go there” unless our life (circumstances) are unbearable. Then we run unleashed to Him.

    The really amazing part of having “more” of God, is that you start looking forward to being uncomfortable, because you know it means you are being made holy.

  4. says

    Having more of God means we are always running toward Him. I don’t think anyone addresses this as well as Francis Chan in Crazy Love. It has been life-changing for me.

  5. jimmy paravane says

    Yeah, I’m trying to write about this today. Personally, I think I have all the God I can stand right now, thank you very much. How about less of God? Can I get that for a change and not mean something “bad” by it? (grin)


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